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(Message started by: Jonathan on Nov 3rd, 2005, 9:06am)

Title: ABC's American Inventor
Post by Jonathan on Nov 3rd, 2005, 9:06am

Simon Cowell will supposedly be hosting a new reality show where inventors show their goods and America can vote to determine a winner -

http://abc.go.com/primetime/americaninventor/index.html

I bet anyone that compete's in this competition probably needs to sign away some of their rights in the event they win.

Title: Re: ABC's American Inventor
Post by listenup77 on Nov 3rd, 2005, 1:48pm
Wouldn't something like having your invention put on national TV cause your idea to be challenged, by maybe hundreds of people attempting to do work arounds? I mean publicity is good for the marketing, but it just seems like not a great idea to make your product part of a reality show. If the show bombs, then your product will be associated with failure. What do you guys think?

Title: Re: ABC's American Inventor
Post by listenup77 on Nov 4th, 2005, 2:02am
Don't know if anyone is thinking of doing this, but your should read the fine line.


From the site: http://abc.go.com/primetime/americaninventor/eligibilty.html

Inventor Eligibility Requirements:

7. Inventors must complete and sign the Participant Agreement and Release, in which among other things, Inventor agrees to release, defend and indemnify Producer and ABC (and their respective parents, subsidiaries and affiliated entities and their respective directors, officers, shareholders, agents, representatives and employees) from and against any claims or expenses arising from or relating to the Inventor's participation or appearance in the Program, the Invention's appearance in the Program, or Producer's exercise of any rights granted by Inventor, whether occurring before, during or after Inventor's participation in the Program, including, without limitation, claims for patent or trademark infringement.

8. Inventors must also specifically acknowledge that, separate and apart from this Program, Producer, ABC, Inc., The Walt Disney Company and their respective subsidiaries and affiliates are currently in the process of designing new products, developing new business plans and methods for conducting business, etc., and agree that **the Inventor will not at any time seek any legal remedies against these entities for their independent development, acquisition, manufacture or distribution of any product/service/method similar or identical to that of the Inventor.

Title: Re: ABC's American Inventor
Post by sariloren on Nov 8th, 2005, 5:37pm
I had just found out about the American Inventor show and I am a new inventor with a product that has a provisional patent and a trademark application.

I thought it would be good publicity and a good experience to try out for the show but now I am thinking twice.

In looking at the fine line here it all goes over my head. Give me the basic terms of what that means. If I am reading it correctly it sounds like they can steal your idea right from under you and you can't take any legal action.

thoughts?

Sari

Title: Re: ABC's American Inventor
Post by Isaac Clark on Nov 8th, 2005, 7:07pm
In my reading the language does not imply that they will steal your idea.

Anyone who accepts invention submissions runs a risk of being sued for stealing the idea.  Company's who are doing their own R&D are foolish not to protect themselves against receiving a submission that matches up even roughly with something they are already doing.

In this case the company hosting the show belongs to a conglomeration of company's and does not want to torpedo themselves.  If they actually did steal your idea, nothing in the agreement prevents you from suing.  You are prevented from suing them for things they did not steal from you.

Unfortuntately the agreement seems not to acknowledge any patent rights you might have in your invention.  Even independent invention is not a defense against patent infringement.


Title: Re: ABC's American Inventor
Post by artichokemom on Nov 15th, 2005, 12:31pm
I was so excited about AI until I started reading postings about what a bad idea it was because of the way the rules and regs are written.  Do you think doing a show like AI is better than not doing anything at all? On the other hand, I don't want to ripped off and I want to believe that a show that would be "under the miroscope" wouldn't take advantage, but it happeneds everyday.  What I really want to hear about is the audition process.  I know it started yesterday or today in LA, that would be interesting to know about.  

Title: Re: ABC's American Inventor
Post by Mark Freeman-Aloiau on Nov 16th, 2005, 9:11pm
::)I attended auditions in LA on Monday Nov. 14th.  What do you want to know?

Mark

Title: Re: ABC's American Inventor
Post by Lisa Edge on Nov 20th, 2005, 10:26pm
I too am interested to hear about the auditions. How was it? Crowded? Long wait? Crazy? how were the judges? Like Simon? How many were there? How long did you have to pitch your idea?  Your overall feeling after the audition? Was it good, bad ugly? Thanks in advance.

Title: Re: ABC's American Inventor
Post by Mark Freeman-Aloiau on Nov 23rd, 2005, 10:36am
It was crowded.  I am guessing about 400 to 500 people auditioning.  The instructions said you couldn't get ther before 6am and nothing would happen until 8am.  I got there at about 6:30am and was one of the last people to audition the first day.  Others were told to return the next day.  I arrived at 6:30 am and was done at 7:00pm...  yes a long wait.  99% of that time was waiting.  4 or 5 judges all very nice.  rules say you have 2 minutes to pitch your idea, but they weren't strict about that.  

I think it went very well for me.


Title: Re: ABC's American Inventor
Post by Dan O on Nov 25th, 2005, 3:06pm
Would you suggest trying to get there earlier than 6am?  Thanks.

Title: Re: ABC's American Inventor
Post by Dan O on Nov 25th, 2005, 3:10pm
Also, were the auditions situated in such a way that you can walk up to the judges and show them drawings, etc.?  Was it private, meaning others auditioning cannot see you when you audition?  

thanks a lot!

Title: Re: ABC's American Inventor
Post by artichokemom on Nov 28th, 2005, 5:19pm
HEY MARK!!!  Very interesting about the LA auditions. Makes me feel a little better about the audition process. Any other info you would be willing to share with us? I'd love to know the answers to Dan O's questions.  DOES ANYONE KNOW OF ANY OTHER MESSAGE BOARDS SUCH AS THIS TO GET INFO ABOUT THE PROCESS????

Title: Re: ABC's American Inventor
Post by errantinventor on Dec 13th, 2005, 12:03am
I flipped a coin today and ended up booking a flight to Atlanta.  Anyone else going?  Email me if you are and maybe we can touch base at the auditions.

Personally, I've no desire to be on TV.  But the publicity would be priceless.

Best of luck to anyone who will/has audition(ed)

Title: Re: ABC's American Inventor
Post by artichokemom on Dec 14th, 2005, 6:48pm
Would love to hear what people's experience was in Atlanta!  I was talked out of going and was bummed out all day today. WHO WENT AND WHAT HAPPENED!!!!????

Title: Re: ABC's American Inventor
Post by errantinventor on Dec 21st, 2005, 12:50pm
I went.  Spent 8 hours in line with around 300-400 others for a 3 minute audition.  The producers were nice, but the three inventions I submitted probably won't be sensational enough for prime-time tv.  I would have considered it a wasted trip except for making a few good contacts in the day-long line.

Title: Re: ABC's American Inventor
Post by Alan Sims on Dec 24th, 2005, 4:20am
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I auditioned in NY.   I got my call!!!!! Already.
I will be recieving a package from ABC today!!

I love America.......


 Al Sims Colchester CT.

Title: Re: ABC's American Inventor
Post by rob reynolds on Dec 26th, 2005, 10:06pm
hey al ,,thats great that you were notified already.
 I was also at the n.y. auditions ,probably seen ya we were all there so long.
Just wondering if they have let you know if your next step is the top ten or does it go to a like top 100 to go in front of all the judges again ?
    best of luck to ya                     rr

Title: Re: ABC's American Inventor
Post by Alan Sims on Dec 27th, 2005, 8:27am

;D

Hi Ron,

Thanks! I am so excited!! I no nothing yet..
Hopefully package comes today.

She said it might be held up a day because of Christmas.


       AL

Title: Re: ABC's American Inventor
Post by Inventor on Dec 27th, 2005, 12:16pm

on 11/23/05 at 10:36:56, Mark Freeman-Aloiau wrote:
I got there at about 6:30am and was one of the last people to audition the first day.


Hi Mark, this is the other Mark - I was with you during the end of the day in LA.  I am the fellow with the Invention Team Family.  We watched each other do the video interview at the end of the day.  

Hola'

Title: Re: ABC's American Inventor
Post by Mark on Dec 29th, 2005, 9:50pm
A very active blog for this subject can be found at:

http://www.marysgreatideas.com/archives/2005/11/my_american_inv_1.html

Title: Re: ABC's American Inventor
Post by Inventor Underground on Feb 6th, 2006, 12:19pm
This link is very active:

http://www.InventorUnderground.com

Title: The Truth about ABC's American Inventor
Post by Deep_Throat on Mar 8th, 2006, 1:10pm
Do you guys really want to know the truth about this show??
It will shock you!! Go to
http://www.geocities.com/american_inventor/

Read it and tell me if you are excited about this trush TV show!




>:(

Title: Re: ABC's American Inventor
Post by Holly Fields on Mar 15th, 2006, 9:28am
One last try at trying to make a direct link and I am going to give up.

http://www.americaninventorspot.com

Title: Re: ABC's American Inventor
Post by LF on Mar 8th, 2007, 2:22am
Ah Hollywood! :-X

Title: Re: ABC's American Inventor
Post by Word Up on Mar 8th, 2007, 3:08pm
I'm strapping on my black leathers and red groin cup to give Deep Throat and others the word:

You know that show called "Lost?"
It shows people lost on an island.

You want the truth about that show too?
It will shock you!

It's all a scam!
It's all fake!

Those people aren't even lost!
They're actors!
There was no plane crash!
There is no island with weird underground portals and pipes!
It's all just made up for TV!

Word up ... TV is fake!

Now keep your eyes on my red groin cup ...

So tell all the boys and girls
Tell your brother, your sister
And your mama too
Cause we're about to go down
And youíll know just what to do
Wave your hands in the air
Like you donít care
Glide by the people as they start to look and stare
Do your dance
Do your dance
Do your dance quick mama, come on baby tell me whatís the word  
Word up!

Now pick up the fragments of your bubble and get to work!




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