The Intellectual Property Law Server

Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register.
Oct 4th, 2023, 5:18pm

Forums Forums Help Help Search Search Members Members Calendar Calendar Login Login Register Register
   Intellectual Property Forums
  
  
Becoming a Patent Agent/Lawyer
(Moderators: Forum Admin, JimIvey, JSonnabend)
   Working for the USPTO
« Previous topic | Next topic »
Pages: 1 ... 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127  ...  252 Reply Reply Send Topic Send Topic Print Print
   Author  Topic: Working for the USPTO  (Read 449613 times)
JakeMondatta
Guest
Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #600 on: Sep 14th, 2006, 6:33am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify Remove Remove

Why is turnover so high?  Is it because examiners keep leaving for good jobs with law firms or is it because morale is low?
IP Logged
Isaac
Senior Member
****




   


Posts: 3472
Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #601 on: Sep 14th, 2006, 6:53am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

I don't think either of those tells the full story.
 
A significant amount of the turnover is from people who leave during their first year or so because they find out they don't like the job, that they cannot do the job at the required production rate, or that the relentless quest for production is too stressful.
 
There are those more senior examiners who take a promotion which includes a production goal that they cannot meet.    
 
I wouldn't call any of those things morale problems per se, but I wouldn't expect the mood of people with those issues to be particularly cheerful.
 
But at the firm I work at there are several ex-examiners who left simply because they found better paying gigs.
IP Logged

Isaac
JakeMondatta
Guest
Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #602 on: Sep 14th, 2006, 8:03am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify Remove Remove

Interesting.  What are the hours like for a first-year examiner?  Are they comparable to a first year associate at a DC law firm?
IP Logged
Isaac
Senior Member
****




   


Posts: 3472
Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #603 on: Sep 14th, 2006, 9:03am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

Generally speaking the hours for a 1st year examiner are not an issue.  Examiners at G-7 and below are not allowed to work unpaid overtime and are expected to do whatever production is required in 40 hours a week.
 
IP Logged

Isaac
JakeMondatta
Guest
Re: Working for the USPTO
« Reply #604 on: Sep 14th, 2006, 9:15am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify Remove Remove

Are the production quotas such that only the superhuman can do the job and attend law school part time... or is this reasonable for someone who is very interested in doing it?
IP Logged
Pages: 1 ... 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127  ...  252 Reply Reply Send Topic Send Topic Print Print

« Previous topic | Next topic »
Powered by YaBB 1 Gold - SP 1.3.2!
Forum software copyright © 2000-2004 Yet another Bulletin Board